Comments on: The Future of Internet Is Virtual Worlds. Or Is It? http://metacole.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/ coleman yee on design thinking, education, and everything else Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:31:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Robert Macniel http://metacole.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-2497 Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:58:17 +0000 http://metacole.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-2497 The Internet is nothing more then an infrastructure over which we are able to get information and entertainment. The way we experience this information or entertainment has to do with the capabilities of our browser, software programs and computing power of servers and PC’s.
I see a shift from just information from the Internet in the form of text to a lot more entertainment from the Internet as in online movies, music and so on. I think the Internet will replace TV and radio soon in the same way records and VHS cassettes have been replaced by CD and DVD. And after that the advance in bandwidth and computing power will also allow us to submerge ourselves into 3d worlds. Not replacing 2d information or entertainment, but adding 3d worlds as an extra which in time will grow out to something like a Matrix but then in a positive sense and in which we can plug in and out when we want to. Commercially sold VR goggles and gloves will come first. Then headsets that feed neuro impulses to our brain in stead of reading impulses from our brain like the headset Nintendo is currently developing. The reasons why we would want to enter 3d worlds are simple. We will be able to communicate in a whole new manner, and people love to use the Internet for communication. We would be able to virtually meet everyone from around the whole world as if it were face to face. It will be commercially interesting to companies and governments. I think a 3D Internet is not far off and I wish it was here already.

]]> By: The Future Internet « μεταcole http://metacole.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-1520 Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:41:16 +0000 http://metacole.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-1520 [...] Future Internet Some time ago, I argued that the future internet will not be virtual 3D worlds. So a number of people have asked me what I thought the future internet will be [...]

]]> By: kwokheng http://metacole.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-938 Mon, 26 Feb 2007 03:59:25 +0000 http://metacole.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-938 I must say I lost you here.

Then you’ll have to refer to writings and research within the intersection of media arts and fine arts.

Art criticism writings are a lot more abstract than that.

]]> By: coleman yee http://metacole.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-931 Sat, 24 Feb 2007 12:14:50 +0000 http://metacole.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-931 The implicit assumption that you’re making is that the internet in eventuality will still be the same internet 30-50 years later.”

No, that was not my implicit assumption at all. I gave no timeline, but you could say that the internet I referred to here is a pre-transhumanist internet, if you like. I’ve written my speculations that would apply to a transhumanist scenario in “Why the Matrix Will Not Happen“.

It is another to fully assert the view that insofar as human beings are like informational mediums unto themselves, the ‘cluetrain manifesto’ does hold true for markets and that all affect and ‘the experiential’ is still, ‘informational’.

I must say I lost you here. Interesting thoughts though.

]]> By: kwokheng http://metacole.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-929 Fri, 23 Feb 2007 19:48:24 +0000 http://metacole.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-929 He believed that the internet will eventually become a 3D virtual world (or worlds), simply because of the richness of information that 3D is able to communicate, as compared to textual, visual, or video information.

He’s wrong.

If your take is truly that, then I readily disagree.

The implicit assumption that you’re making is that the internet in eventuality will still be the same internet 30-50 years later.

If you go back to what is exactly, the ‘internet’ as it was initially conceptualised, then there’s still a huge gray area left unexplored.

That’s not to say that you’re wrong. It’s just that your context is still the here and now, whereas transhumanist performance artist, Sterlac, and his ilk, would assert otherwise.

It is one thing to speak of the internet as described by you, as ‘informational’. It is another to fully assert the view that insofar as human beings are like informational mediums unto themselves, the ‘cluetrain manifesto’ does hold true for markets and that all affect and ‘the experiential’ is still, ‘informational’.

The chasm between Douglas Abrams’ view and yours lies in perhaps, the difference between definitions: the definitions of ‘reality’ and thus ‘life’, more specifically.

‘Real life’ as Sam (Feb 23, 4.52pm) puts it, is indeed better. What is not yet conceivable or seemingly imaginable is how ‘second life’ can be used to support/sustain/protect the longevity of ‘real life’.

As for what I’m driving at, I did put out in a blog post of mine elsewhere:

Then Gary raised the point, ‘Wouldn’t there be problems as well, with the verification of experience?’

I said, ‘Yes, but that’s only one strand of development. The other strand that’s taking place at the same time has to do with transhumanism and biometric verification.’

And alongside this development of technology comes with the development of reputation systems, things like Identity 2.0 for Web 2.0.

So the verification of knowledge may eventually be passed onto reputation systems of the transhumanist nature. And again, even if the academics don’t use it, if the technology does become wide-spread then like the news you get from newspapers, common folk will not be able to divorce themselves from it because if they do so, they risk cutting themselves off from society.

Which is then again, where all the theories for politics and hegemony will come in, alongside Lawrence Lessig and his ‘code is law’.

Then to his question of how transhumanism might take place in the first place, I brought up the question that I’ve been thinking about the wide-spread implementation of Wi-Fi hotspots and said that Wi-Fi is essentially radiation; if people in all eventuality decide to adopt some transhumanist device that allows them to shield their cells from mutation, there’s no saying where all that use of augmented technologies will develop into.

Then again, maybe I’m just crack-brained. As I’m always told.

kh

]]> By: Sam http://metacole.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-919 Fri, 23 Feb 2007 08:52:52 +0000 http://metacole.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-919 Second life is the most overhyped overrated piece of shit out there. Sorry real life is still better.

]]> By: Wanderings, Musings and Happenings from Ian on Singapore » One Life Is Enough http://metacole.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-918 Fri, 23 Feb 2007 06:54:02 +0000 http://metacole.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-918 [...] Yee muses about whether virtual worlds are the future of the Internet. I totally agree with Walter’s comment. I also wonder if its the same Bak Kut Teh store that [...]

]]> By: coleman yee http://metacole.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-917 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:33:49 +0000 http://metacole.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-917 aileen: yup tv was dominant, but it didn’t kill radio. and quite strangely, book sales have increased the last few years.

]]> By: The Future of Internet Is Virtual Worlds. Or Is It? (Part 2) « μεταcole http://metacole.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-916 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:19:44 +0000 http://metacole.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-916 [...] Future of Internet Is Virtual Worlds. Or Is It? (Part 2) In part 1 of “the Future of Internet Is Virtual Worlds. Or Is It?”, I explained why an immersive 3D internet will not take over the 2D [...]

]]> By: aileen http://metacole.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-915 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 03:46:51 +0000 http://metacole.wordpress.com/2007/02/17/the-future-of-internet-is-virtual-worlds-or-is-it/#comment-915 agree with marina. I don’t think metaverse will ever completely replace real life, or tv, or the web (am differentiating web from the Internet. heck, virtual worlds run on the Internet!) or print, or… you get the point. Instead, what metaverses provide is possiblities for new content, commerce and communication which could greatly enhance interaction between people.

(Btw, Coleman, how did tv not kill radio? tv was the dominant medium for news and entertainment for the last few decades?! >.

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